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Who set it up?

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Telling you the truth about this.

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Everybody else is pointing their finger at you.

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What people think when they watch Murder for Hire, your show on TV,

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is that it's glamorous, it's a professional hit person,

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it's a lot of money, and so on and so forth.

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Many times, that's not the case.

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We had three people killed in one location at one time.

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What the heck? I just left there.

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The more victims, the bigger the case becomes.

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If there was an intended target, why take two more?

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They were looking at the wives.

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There was some embezzling going on.

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And then it came out, oh, he was having an affair.

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He was a Romeo.

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He was a player.

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A flashy person.

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Like Fabio on the horse with the long hair.

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But it wasn't like she was going out with Brad Pitt.

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Just cold-blooded to execute three people.

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Coincidences?

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Coincidences?

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I don't believe in coincidences.

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We all knew who it was, but the only question in my mind was...

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My shift for that day started at 3 o'clock.

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When I went to work, I found out that my car was over at BandB Automotive being repaired.

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They repaired our police cars.

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They had the account.

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BandB Automotive.

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It was almost like a little bit of a center hub for motor vehicle mechanical work.

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It was in Windsor Locks.

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When we mention Windsor Locks, we always say, oh, we're Bradley, as Bradley International Airport.

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A lot of farmland, beautiful homes, you know, nice little community.

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So after roll call was over, I drove over to BandB.

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I arrived there probably around 3.20.

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They said about 25 more minutes.

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So I hung out there talking with those guys.

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After my car was ready, I left.

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I think it was 4.20.

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And 10 to 20 minutes had passed since I had left there.

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When dispatch reported that there was a call at BandB Automotive,

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there was a report of three bodies on the ground with blood around them.

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What the heck?

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I'm like, I just left there.

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The scene was a garage with multiple bays.

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When we first went to the scene, there was a long driveway.

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And we saw a red pickup truck was parked in the driveway.

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Door opened, you know, keys are still there.

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At that point, it kind of led us to believe that that vehicle was stopped, approached,

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and then somebody was taken out hastily.

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They just took back to that building.

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We walked down the rest of the driveway.

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We go to our right, and it's three gentlemen.

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Pools of blood.

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It was more like they were gathered in one place, told, keep your head down, don't look

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at me, and they were shot and killed.

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It was a nine millimeter, it was execution style type of murder.

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That's a real cruel manner of death.

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This was a major crime.

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The victims are determined to be employees of this automotive repair shop.

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Robert Steers, Barry Rossi, and Lauren Stevens.

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Now, Barry and Bobby were owners of the BandB automotive garage.

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Lauren was an employee of theirs.

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They were outgoing guys.

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They were, you know, great businessmen, great mechanics.

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In fact, Bobby was the boomer of the red pickup truck.

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So when I got there, the ambulance was already on scene.

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And Bob was making some kind of moaning noise, like he was in pain.

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He was hurt, and he was transported to the hospital by ambulance personnel.

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He succumbed to his injuries later on.

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He died at the hospital.

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At the time, 50 million things were running through my head as to what happened to these

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guys.

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You know, I just literally talked to these guys, and it was sad.

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Talking to other witnesses who worked in the area, they gave us the timeline.

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I think it was somewhere in the E5 area, you know, that the murder took place.

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So that was my first murder scene in my career.

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After that, you know, I didn't know if I wanted to be a police officer anymore.

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It was difficult to deal with for a little while.

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And some of the things that ran through my mind, too, was were they waiting for me to leave?

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Did they see me go in there?

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Did they see me leave?

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What if I had stayed there just a little longer?

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Could I have helped these guys, you know?

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When I look at a case like this, think of a puzzle where you're trying to develop a picture

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of what happened.

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Number one, you've got to find out who the relatives and relationships that that victim

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had, who their friends are, who their enemies are.

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There are just so many questions that you need to answer for each individual person.

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There were three victims, and you realize all the ancillary things that you're going to

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have to do, not just once, not just twice, but actually do three times, and then some.

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I'm Karen Ranney, previously Steers, older sister to Robert.

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And I'm younger sister to Robert.

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We were a family of six.

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My name is Debbie Haught, and I'm Bobby Steers' older sister.

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I don't think we had a problem growing up.

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We had our differences, but, you know, it wasn't anything major where we were pulling

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our hair out of each other's heads.

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Except for the bathroom.

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When I think of my brother Bobby, he had lots of friends.

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He had things that I had in common with him, cars in particular.

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We found a picture of him when he was 17, and my parents had given him a gift to work

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on cars.

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He did really well in school with automotive.

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It was his passion, and he found the right people to work with.

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Barry and Bobby were in a class for mechanics together, bonded, and went to work for their

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teacher until they decided, you know, they're going to branch out on their own.

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They were going to start their own business together.

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That's where they ended up with BandB, Barry and Bobby.

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And, yeah, like a married couple.

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They were the perfect pair.

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How often in life do you come across people that not only become business partners together,

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and be friends outside of work as well?

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Well, a good 20 years in business together, and I don't think they ever had a fight.

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I don't think they ever argued.

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Barry, to me, was a more jovial guy.

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Bob, to me, he seemed more business, you know, like more direct.

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And their business was so lucrative that they took on more employees because of the business

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growth.

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Lauren Stevens was the goofball.

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Lauren always had a grin on his face, always making some kind of joke.

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Stories were Lauren would hide, like, Playboy magazines in some of the cars that would come

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in to get repaired, of customers that he knew really well.

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So I think Lauren was the biggest prankster out of the three of them.

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Tell me about the pins you're wearing.

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These were pins created at the wedding of Barry.

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And they were all...

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The three best men, the three guys.

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The three guys.

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The three stooges.

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Because they were always together.

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Mm-hmm.

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You know, they were always enjoying life together.

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And having fun and enjoying life together.

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So, you know, God brought them into this world together.

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God took them out together because it was meant to be at that point in their lives to be together.

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So it happened together because they loved each other.

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Shelly was Robert's wife.

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They had three children that day.

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And I answered the phone, and this girl's on the other end, and she's hysterical.

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And it was Shelly, and that's when she told me my brother had been shot.

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What breaks my heart, what kills me to this day, is just visualizing the way it happened.

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Execution style.

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Oh, God, my brother did not deserve that.

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Neither one of these guys deserved that.

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July 30th, the phone rang at 5.30, and it's my youngest sister saying there's been a murder.

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And what?

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It's just surreal.

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It was a very horrible, horrible night.

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Why this happened?

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Why did this have to happen?

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It was needless.

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It was wrong.

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When I found out it was at the garage, I just figured it had to be a robbery.

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What else could it possibly have been?

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And, you know, at that point, we walked through the rest of the garage just to look at the

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offices, the safes, the desks where, if money was kept, looking for different motives.

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It didn't look like they would have known the person.

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There was no other signs of struggle.

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There was no ransacking of the offices or anything.

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There was money all over the place.

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The cash register was full.

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Nothing touched.

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We kind of, like, looked around.

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Their pockets weren't turned inside out.

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Everything seemed in order.

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It definitely was not a robbery, and it definitely had the markings of a hit, if you will.

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I think that if they were shot in the face, it was somebody angry.

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But it wasn't somebody angry.

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It was somebody who knew what they came to do and did it and was out of there within minutes.

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When I was in the garage that day, I usually spoke to Barry.

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They were joking around, basically, just chit-chat guy stuff.

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I remember we heard the phone ring.

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I remember Bob coming out of his office, and he looked a little upset.

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And he said to Barry, he goes, can you believe it?

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That guy called me.

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So Barry just kind of shook his head in disbelief.

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And then Bob went back to his office, and I said to Barry, I go, what's that all about?

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And he goes, oh, you don't want to know.

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So I said, okay.

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You know, I'm not going to get into their personal business.

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But to me, it seemed like it was an ongoing issue that they had with somebody.

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I don't know at the time if it was a pissed-off customer or what was going on.

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And that's all I recall.

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He was saying, this could be some angry person with a car.

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Then it was like they had a, you know, they would hold cars for non-payment.

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So was it a disgruntled customer who wanted their car back and couldn't get their car back?

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Was it a disgruntled customer who didn't like the way they fixed their car?

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At first, we didn't know who were they after, all of them, one of them?

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But if there was an intended target, why take two more?

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You were scared out of your mind of who's next.

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We just didn't sleep.

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There was a 24-hour watch at the house.

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We took shifts.

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So it's very frightening.

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The only question in my mind, it was like, who?

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There was a mechanic who was not there that day.

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So BandB Automotive, they had approximately four people working in there.

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Bob, Barry, Lauren, and Les at the time.

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But he wasn't there when this happened.

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Les was a conservative guy, serious about what he did.

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He worked with these guys five days a week, maybe more.

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And he probably loved them like they were his brothers, his families.

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When I know about Les' he raced cars.

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BandB sponsored him.

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But then things changed.

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They did stop supporting him at one time because money was getting tight, so it could be a motive.

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So detectives wondered if Les was involved.

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He could have been a suspect or he could have been part of the planning.

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That's why he wasn't there.

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He could have been the shooter.

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We did look into him quickly, and he had a dentist appointment, so he cut out early.

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But we've seen before where people will set up the alibi.

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They'll make sure they're seen somewhere, or they go to a restaurant.

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There is a receipt.

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They go through a toll booth.

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So that's something that one, as an investigator, would look very, very seriously at.

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But it wasn't just your normal type investigation.

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A lot of questions, a lot of interviews, a lot of different angles.

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And then also, we went to the family side, and we started looking in family members.

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The more victims, the bigger the case becomes, because you certainly have a great deal of work that needs to be done for each individual victim.

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They would take Barry and find nothing that would raise a red flag, so to speak, in his life.

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Same with Lauren.

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Bobby, they dissected his life.

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And there were some things that caused some very concerning information that needed to really be looked into.

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Bobby was married to Shelly Steers.

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She just looked like the normal, you know, Winsor Locks married woman.

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After they started BandB Automotive, she was working at the shop.

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She would go in and take care of all their business side of the scheduling and the bill collecting and the deposit.

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She did all that.

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Shelly was extremely friendly.

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I would just say she's average.

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I wouldn't say that she was not like a model person.

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She was just average.

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She didn't wear a lot of makeup.

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She didn't wear a lot of fancy clothes.

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Not a lot of jewelry.

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I mean, she just wasn't ostentatious about anything.

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My assumption is that they met in school, and they got married when she was pregnant.

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And I don't think that was something that was planned.

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I think it's something that happened.

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And they took the course to be responsible and get married.

243
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I think they were married by the time they were 19, 20 years old.

244
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I didn't really know her real well.

245
00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,760
But when she was around at family events, she was always cordial.

246
00:16:44,900 --> 00:16:47,620
She was never ugly, mean, or disrespectful.

247
00:16:48,380 --> 00:16:52,840
Bobby and Shelly seemed to me to get along really well.

248
00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:59,960
Now, once did she ever say, like, you can't come over, or we're not having you over for a birthday party or a picnic?

249
00:17:00,540 --> 00:17:02,720
You never felt like you weren't welcome.

250
00:17:03,660 --> 00:17:06,340
I went with her to a crazy, like, heavy metal concert.

251
00:17:06,540 --> 00:17:07,800
She wasn't just like my sister-in-law.

252
00:17:07,860 --> 00:17:08,680
She was like my sister.

253
00:17:09,460 --> 00:17:10,240
We were friends.

254
00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:22,040
I thought everything was fine until about two weeks before the incident at the shop.

255
00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:29,820
I had gone down to my brother's boat, and that was the only time I ever saw my brother really distraught.

256
00:17:29,820 --> 00:17:34,720
And he said, I'm almost bankrupt.

257
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And he shared that he found all these charge cards and loans, and he was, she had gotten him into a lot of debt that he was not aware of.

258
00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:52,240
Where all that money was going, I don't know.

259
00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:58,240
I think Shelly had a little bit of a problem at the office.

260
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I'm not sure exactly what, but there was something that, you know, she was no longer working there.

261
00:18:08,660 --> 00:18:22,560
Then, you know, information started to come out that Shelly, his wife, was stealing money from the business because she did control the office side.

262
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It's a speculation.

263
00:18:24,540 --> 00:18:30,840
It's nothing that we can actually say definitively, but this was something out of the norm.

264
00:18:32,980 --> 00:18:37,760
There was something that just wasn't right when it came to Shelly.

265
00:18:38,660 --> 00:18:46,680
What I can tell you about Barry is Barry wanted the business saved and protected.

266
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And so the day after the murders, Barry and Bobby were scheduled to go to the lawyer to put everything in Barry's name.

267
00:19:01,420 --> 00:19:04,760
But they never got to go to that appointment.

268
00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:10,240
Because they were murdered the night before.

269
00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,280
What would that make anybody think?

270
00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:21,760
Coincidences?

271
00:19:23,500 --> 00:19:24,760
I don't believe in coincidences.

272
00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:33,040
We interviewed Shelly, his wife.

273
00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,080
She was very evasive.

274
00:19:36,420 --> 00:19:42,800
She said she wasn't happy in the marriage, that things weren't working out, that she felt lonely.

275
00:19:43,140 --> 00:19:46,480
She had confided in me that she had seen someone.

276
00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:51,760
I didn't really know anything about the man, other than Shelly met him online.

277
00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:59,780
Trying to get on the internet in the early 2000s, that was a mess.

278
00:19:59,980 --> 00:20:01,000
There wasn't Wi-Fi.

279
00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:07,720
It was dial-up, and it would make all these weird sounds before it got you connected.

280
00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:12,540
Once you turned the computer on, it would be a strange, buzzing-type sound.

281
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Eeeeee.

282
00:20:14,540 --> 00:20:16,000
Woo-woo-woo-woo.

283
00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:17,940
Eee-ee-ee-ee.

284
00:20:19,820 --> 00:20:25,460
Shelly said she reached out to someone, and it started to develop into stronger feelings.

285
00:20:26,220 --> 00:20:28,540
His name was Benedetto Cipriani.

286
00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:30,340
Cipriani or Cipriani?

287
00:20:30,340 --> 00:20:32,540
In Italy, it's Cipriani.

288
00:20:33,360 --> 00:20:35,860
I believe people here called him Cipriani.

289
00:20:39,300 --> 00:20:41,020
We didn't know who he was.

290
00:20:41,380 --> 00:20:43,300
You know, Cipriani's a big name.

291
00:20:44,100 --> 00:20:47,220
Is he tied to the big Cipriani family in Italy?

292
00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,680
They own hotel chains and restaurant chains.

293
00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,420
He worked in the area.

294
00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:56,480
He was married before, but did not have children.

295
00:20:56,480 --> 00:21:03,140
You know, we figured some Italian good-looking guy, like Fabio on the horse with the long hair.

296
00:21:03,420 --> 00:21:07,600
And then when we saw him, we were kind of set back, like, wow.

297
00:21:09,360 --> 00:21:10,640
He looks old.

298
00:21:10,820 --> 00:21:11,660
He's frumpy.

299
00:21:12,140 --> 00:21:13,160
He was out of shape.

300
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:15,500
He was short and chubby.

301
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,640
It wasn't like she was, like, going out with Brad Pitt.

302
00:21:20,180 --> 00:21:24,220
And it didn't make sense to us why Shelly would do this.

303
00:21:24,220 --> 00:21:32,840
And it's like she wasn't abused, she wasn't neglected, but it's just that he had a way about him.

304
00:21:33,540 --> 00:21:36,760
They knew each other for two weeks and then met in a hotel.

305
00:21:37,060 --> 00:21:40,080
That's where they, you know, had sex.

306
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:43,100
Should have never got to that point anyway.

307
00:21:43,100 --> 00:21:44,760
Should have never got that.

308
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:45,440
No.

309
00:21:45,820 --> 00:21:53,600
If she wasn't happy with their relationship, she should have just done the right thing, the moral thing, and leave.

310
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,860
It wasn't something I would have expected out of it.

311
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:05,180
She said roughly around a year that she was seeing him.

312
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:11,820
To listen to this story from the outside, you would just say, you know, were you stepping up?

313
00:22:11,900 --> 00:22:14,860
Like, is it somebody above, like, what you have?

314
00:22:15,380 --> 00:22:16,500
It was none of that.

315
00:22:16,500 --> 00:22:17,480
But what was it?

316
00:22:17,980 --> 00:22:19,140
Speculative could be.

317
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,420
That she was drawn to his money.

318
00:22:24,140 --> 00:22:26,180
He comes off as a flashy person.

319
00:22:26,500 --> 00:22:27,420
He's in business.

320
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:28,500
He knows people.

321
00:22:28,860 --> 00:22:29,580
He had money.

322
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:35,840
You know, everything that she doesn't have right now is something that appeals to her.

323
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,000
We were working class families.

324
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:43,520
None of us had that taste of what money can get you.

325
00:22:45,940 --> 00:22:49,020
We learned Shelly and Cipriani built a house together.

326
00:22:49,020 --> 00:22:55,920
The plan was supposed to have been that once the house was built and ready, she was going to leave.

327
00:22:57,580 --> 00:22:59,800
But it takes a long time to build a house.

328
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:06,080
I can only surmise he probably figured my brother would leave at that point, and then he would get her.

329
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,080
And that's not how it happened.

330
00:23:12,380 --> 00:23:14,100
It was 2002.

331
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:20,640
She called the whole affair off, citing that she had children, she had a husband.

332
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:27,360
She had realized what she had done, and she wanted to go back to her normal life.

333
00:23:29,660 --> 00:23:32,060
And he just wasn't having it.

334
00:23:32,140 --> 00:23:33,120
He wouldn't accept it.

335
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,200
He kept pursuing her.

336
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,480
He kept trying to contact her, called her.

337
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:41,380
She was telling me Ben was calling her and calling her and calling her on the phone.

338
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,200
Apparently, like, he sent her flowers.

339
00:23:43,340 --> 00:23:44,460
He brought her clothes.

340
00:23:45,020 --> 00:23:48,940
He bought her jewelry for Ben Cipriani.

341
00:23:49,220 --> 00:23:52,080
He hadn't invested a lot into this relationship.

342
00:23:52,580 --> 00:23:55,620
He was not going to go out unless he was kicking and screaming.

343
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,980
It was almost a year before my brother lost his life.

344
00:24:01,980 --> 00:24:16,260
Ben Cipriani called my brother to notify him that him and Shelly had a relationship and that she had taken money from BandB Automotive to help contribute to building this house together.

345
00:24:16,260 --> 00:24:25,360
He was at work when he got the call, so I'm sure that he needed the time to process, but he was concerned about his family.

346
00:24:25,360 --> 00:24:33,360
Just to reach out to the husband was just, you know, set us back like, wow, this guy definitely wants to break up the marriage.

347
00:24:33,360 --> 00:24:48,120
Now, we weren't sure, we were just surmising that Shelly Steers had half a business, and Shelly Steers had a nice home and a nice area in Windsor Locks, and his wheels must have been turning like a divorce.

348
00:24:48,500 --> 00:24:50,640
How much could she get out of the whole thing?

349
00:24:50,640 --> 00:25:00,860
Benedetto looked at her as being that brass ring that he grabbed onto somebody, you know, is this what he was looking for?

350
00:25:03,540 --> 00:25:17,080
It was at that time that I got a call from Shelly to tell me that my brother had gotten this call at work, and I called Robert, and Robert's response to me was, please go to my house and make sure my family's okay.

351
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:21,880
I said, are you okay? He says, I'm fine. He says, but just go there.

352
00:25:24,260 --> 00:25:31,020
After the call to my brother at work, my brother didn't leave her, and she obviously didn't leave my brother.

353
00:25:31,820 --> 00:25:38,140
I assumed she was working on her marriage, that she made the decision to not be with him anymore.

354
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,660
As soon as this day hit, it changed the whole family dynamic.

355
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,580
That bond with Shelly and Robert and us ended.

356
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:56,880
So on the day of the murder, when Bob got that phone call, and, you know, he seemed a little distressed about it,

357
00:25:56,940 --> 00:26:00,420
and I don't know if Benedetto was calling to see if he was still there at work.

358
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,880
I have no idea what's going on, so.

359
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:17,060
Investigators went through a lot of facts and circumstances, and they focused in on Benedetto Cipriani finding out every single bit of information.

360
00:26:17,620 --> 00:26:23,280
He could find out who he's friends with, who he has relationships with, where he works, what he does, where he travels to.

361
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:36,340
And from what we learned, he worked at some lapel bottling cap company, and I think he was just a customer service associate in Long Island.

362
00:26:36,340 --> 00:26:40,760
And so, somebody that has money is not going to drive that every day.

363
00:26:41,140 --> 00:26:42,500
He said he was in business.

364
00:26:42,700 --> 00:26:46,320
I'm sure he probably said that to three or four different women, you know.

365
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,360
This is what a guy does.

366
00:26:49,780 --> 00:26:54,680
If you're a real player and you're a real con man, that's how you're going to draw somebody in.

367
00:26:55,100 --> 00:27:01,120
We interviewed his work companions, the people in the office, especially females.

368
00:27:01,120 --> 00:27:11,840
They said that every time he would come in, it was close quarters, arm around the shoulders, you know, a lot of cologne, flashy jewelry.

369
00:27:12,340 --> 00:27:15,000
He thought he was a Romeo.

370
00:27:17,060 --> 00:27:24,400
Then we did talk to him, and that's where he started just one denying it, telling us we're wrong.

371
00:27:24,900 --> 00:27:26,400
You don't have anything on me.

372
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,100
He gave an alibi.

373
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:31,020
He was at work.

374
00:27:31,340 --> 00:27:32,740
I didn't know what to think.

375
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,000
Something had to be wrong.

376
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:37,340
It had to be skewed.

377
00:27:37,500 --> 00:27:44,360
What shocks me is that police didn't do anything at that point, because I guess they didn't have enough information to take him in.

378
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,420
He asked Benedetto, can we see your phone?

379
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,500
Can we see your phone records?

380
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,620
And, you know, he says, I have my own privacy.

381
00:27:53,660 --> 00:27:56,080
We're like, okay, we'll get you another way.

382
00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:05,220
And we started just getting warrants for phone records, but it would take months.

383
00:28:05,220 --> 00:28:09,980
The lead detectives, I bug them probably five times a day.

384
00:28:09,980 --> 00:28:12,380
What are you going to do about solving this case?

385
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,400
You're going to get this guy back here?

386
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,700
You're not going to let him get away?

387
00:28:16,700 --> 00:28:23,040
There was quite a bit of boots on the ground in the area of the garage.

388
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:29,880
Talking to all ancillary businesses to what they saw, what they heard, what they may have heard.

389
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:34,800
There was one gentleman that did happen to see something.

390
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,200
It was just before the murder took place.

391
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:46,940
He thinks he saw someone approach the vehicle and then talk to Bobby Steers.

392
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:53,400
More of an aggressive type talk, and then all of a sudden Bobby getting out.

393
00:28:54,460 --> 00:28:57,880
And then they walked down towards the garage.

394
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:02,300
He gave a description, you know, as good as he could.

395
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,300
We were just shocked.

396
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:17,500
From the witness, we were told that it was a dark hair, Hispanic type male.

397
00:29:17,500 --> 00:29:27,880
When you hear, probably it was a Hispanic that came in and shot them, it's like, okay, that makes no sense.

398
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,500
It just confused things more.

399
00:29:30,900 --> 00:29:37,540
We looked at Cipriani, but we knew he didn't fit the description of the witness who saw the young man.

400
00:29:37,540 --> 00:29:45,340
So he got ruled out as being the shooter, but not as far as being a suspect for the homicide.

401
00:29:45,340 --> 00:29:56,020
There was an individual who was arrested by another local police department in Connecticut.

402
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,620
It was for unrelated charges.

403
00:30:01,020 --> 00:30:05,840
He had information to what had occurred at the automotive shop at Linger Locks.

404
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,920
He said he was the uncle of Eric Martinez.

405
00:30:10,260 --> 00:30:13,440
He, just a young kid in Hartford.

406
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:31,720
Benedicto Cipriani was seeing his mother and was living with Eric Martinez in his house, which kind of really solidifies that this is how much of a player he is.

407
00:30:31,780 --> 00:30:35,540
He's with another woman trying to pursue a woman who's married.

408
00:30:35,540 --> 00:30:41,920
We find out only later on that Eric is the product of a rape.

409
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:52,580
And this is where Benedetto knows how to get into people's heads.

410
00:30:54,660 --> 00:31:04,540
And then he starts explaining to Martinez that he has a guy, Robert Steers, that raped a Hispanic girl.

411
00:31:05,540 --> 00:31:12,520
And Martinez being Hispanic, unfortunately, he believed it.

412
00:31:12,820 --> 00:31:18,260
I don't understand how people can take people's word for that without having proof.

413
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:19,720
I think he was a sick individual.

414
00:31:20,140 --> 00:31:22,380
Can't imagine what Shelly had seen in that man.

415
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,720
I think Cipriani knew what he was looking for.

416
00:31:27,020 --> 00:31:29,680
He was looking for somebody to do a job for him.

417
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,960
So he used the dating site to say, oh, who's got teenage kids?

418
00:31:34,340 --> 00:31:35,880
Who can I meet up with?

419
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:41,380
Because he was approaching those kids with the plan to kill somebody.

420
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:54,180
Benedetto tells Martinez that he wants Bobby's killed.

421
00:31:54,180 --> 00:31:58,000
And then Eric knew a friend.

422
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:00,880
Jose Guzman was the shooter.

423
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,140
He is the guy that had the gun.

424
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:07,000
And then the person that drove was Michael Castillo.

425
00:32:07,820 --> 00:32:13,580
When these two get there, Guzman approached Bobby Steers coming out in the red pickup truck.

426
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,400
Bobby Steers was the motive.

427
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:24,580
Unfortunately, instead of just killing him when he brought Bobby to the garage, then he discovered Barry and Lorne.

428
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,560
And that's when he just shot all three.

429
00:32:34,140 --> 00:32:35,840
Benedetto gives money.

430
00:32:37,900 --> 00:32:40,560
Martinez's uncle said it was $7,000.

431
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:46,160
And everybody, you know, got some of the proceeds to murder three people.

432
00:32:47,140 --> 00:32:50,460
It wasn't a heck of a lot of money to take three lives.

433
00:32:51,060 --> 00:32:54,740
That just breaks my heart that people don't value people's lives as they should.

434
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,600
You know, they could have gone to the police about him.

435
00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:59,500
They could have done a hundred things.

436
00:32:59,580 --> 00:33:04,000
They could have called the shop to say, hey, somebody's trying to hire me to kill you.

437
00:33:04,100 --> 00:33:05,220
But they didn't do anything.

438
00:33:05,340 --> 00:33:06,420
They just went along with it.

439
00:33:08,340 --> 00:33:09,520
It was exciting.

440
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,320
It was like, wow, you know, it's like a home run.

441
00:33:12,420 --> 00:33:14,440
It was nice that somebody came forward.

442
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,400
This picture of the murder for hire, it all comes together.

443
00:33:19,820 --> 00:33:24,500
We've harassed Jose Guzman, Eric Martinez, Michael Castillo.

444
00:33:25,060 --> 00:33:31,260
But we didn't have, you know, enough probable cause to take Cipriani into custody to approach him.

445
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,180
We're just here to say that it's not going to get us anywhere.

446
00:33:34,180 --> 00:33:39,580
When we looked into Cipriani more, we found that he had purchased phone cards.

447
00:33:41,020 --> 00:33:44,740
And Martinez was on the other side with that phone card.

448
00:33:44,820 --> 00:33:46,420
It was that transaction there.

449
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,160
Then we knew that Benedetto was connected to other people.

450
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:56,300
Once there was an arrest warrant, the detectives started to look for Cipriani.

451
00:33:56,300 --> 00:34:00,100
He was gone.

452
00:34:00,100 --> 00:34:12,860
After the murder took place, he told the people his, you know, employment and that he was going back to Italy to take care of his mom.

453
00:34:12,860 --> 00:34:15,420
And he flies to Italy.

454
00:34:18,540 --> 00:34:20,020
How'd you let him out of the country?

455
00:34:20,140 --> 00:34:20,780
He's a suspect.

456
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:21,600
He's a suspect.

457
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:22,900
I was livid.

458
00:34:23,260 --> 00:34:30,140
I was absolutely livid that they couldn't at least take his passport away because he was a person of interest.

459
00:34:30,260 --> 00:34:33,540
But legally, there was nothing they could do to stop him.

460
00:34:33,580 --> 00:34:34,940
And he's got dual citizenship.

461
00:34:36,220 --> 00:34:37,920
Italy did arrest him.

462
00:34:38,580 --> 00:34:42,080
But Italy did not want to release Benedetto to us.

463
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:49,260
Italy was a country that would not return someone to the United States if the death penalty was on the table.

464
00:34:50,300 --> 00:34:54,320
So it was working with the federal government, working with the Italian government,

465
00:34:54,660 --> 00:35:01,760
and then proving to the Italian government that he was not going to be executed for committing these heinous crimes.

466
00:35:02,660 --> 00:35:03,680
And it took time.

467
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,800
It's not something that happens instantaneously.

468
00:35:06,940 --> 00:35:08,140
It took a great deal of time.

469
00:35:08,140 --> 00:35:17,800
The phone rang, and it was the state investigator who said, he's on the plane.

470
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:24,500
I was like this, and then I'm like, I gotta call my sister.

471
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:29,880
And we were just jumping and screaming, like, oh my God, oh my God.

472
00:35:30,940 --> 00:35:32,320
It's just incredible.

473
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:39,500
So this tragedy pulled our three families kind of together.

474
00:35:43,500 --> 00:35:48,820
We felt a bit of relief that the justice system is doing its job.

475
00:35:48,820 --> 00:35:56,800
And I was just thankful that it was coming closer to closure.

476
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:03,720
It was just excitement of, oh my God, he's on American ground.

477
00:36:03,900 --> 00:36:04,860
We got him.

478
00:36:05,420 --> 00:36:07,000
He's going to be held accountable.

479
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:14,120
When we brought Cipriani back, he lawyers up immediately.

480
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:18,020
So, you know, it left a wide open scope at that point.

481
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,940
I always thought that there may be one more arrest.

482
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:26,180
I didn't know if Benedetto was going to say that Shelley was aware of his plan all along.

483
00:36:26,180 --> 00:36:29,820
I don't know if she knew all along or not.

484
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,620
You know, and he kept quiet about it.

485
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:38,980
I always had a lingering thought, who else was involved in this?

486
00:36:39,380 --> 00:36:45,680
We never really felt Shelley was upfront and truthful from the start.

487
00:36:46,380 --> 00:36:47,700
We interviewed her.

488
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:53,040
She said that she broke it off, like, months and months before the homicide occurred.

489
00:36:53,040 --> 00:37:00,120
But also, she said that a week before the murder took place, Benedetto and Shelley go to his house.

490
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:06,580
And Benedetto shows three bank statements saying he depletes his stock, puts it in her account.

491
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:10,800
Apparently, he gave her $18,000.

492
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,460
And he just wanted Shelley to go with him.

493
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,280
And they had sex again.

494
00:37:18,780 --> 00:37:19,800
I'm angry.

495
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:27,700
And, you know, once we found the phone records, we saw he did reach out to her.

496
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:33,960
Benedetto called her at least 30 minutes after the murder took place.

497
00:37:34,300 --> 00:37:35,320
You know, it's unusual.

498
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,480
Was she still part of the plan?

499
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:41,360
We don't know.

500
00:37:41,860 --> 00:37:45,960
They say money is the root of all evil, and it is.

501
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,140
This really wasn't about love and jealousy.

502
00:37:49,460 --> 00:37:51,760
It was about money, plain and simple.

503
00:37:51,760 --> 00:38:16,500
Cipriano stood trial for the crimes in which he was accused.

504
00:38:16,500 --> 00:38:26,040
He was convicted by a jury of 12 of his peers in Superior Court, and the judge sentenced him to 200-plus years in prison.

505
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:28,540
We knew he was going to die here.

506
00:38:28,720 --> 00:38:32,340
Now he has to remember and live this every day of his life.

507
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:39,300
I'm sure every morning when he gets up, he realizes that, you know, this is not worth it.

508
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:40,500
It's a sad life.

509
00:38:40,500 --> 00:38:51,000
In court, I stared right at him, and I made sure I let him know I'm going to live to see him die in an American prison.

510
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:56,560
I looked him right in the eye, and he couldn't look back.

511
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,020
He couldn't look back.

512
00:39:00,020 --> 00:39:08,620
Shelly Steers was someone that was looked at very heavily.

513
00:39:09,980 --> 00:39:16,480
It was never determined that she had any firsthand knowledge or involvement.

514
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:27,400
Through the trial, she said she had no knowledge that this was going to occur.

515
00:39:28,420 --> 00:39:32,540
And the only people that know that for sure is Ben Cipriani and Shelly.

516
00:39:35,460 --> 00:39:36,880
Nobody else knows that for sure.

517
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:47,400
All the families, they were angry as to why.

518
00:39:50,580 --> 00:39:52,900
Why was there not more blame put?

519
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:57,140
We were told,

520
00:39:58,140 --> 00:40:03,000
you don't arrest somebody on circumstantial evidence

521
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,960
because you can't go back again.

522
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,740
And that's where it ended.

523
00:40:14,740 --> 00:40:15,640
For us,

524
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:23,620
we just have to let it go.

525
00:40:27,620 --> 00:40:30,080
If he's able to manipulate people to murder her,

526
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,980
do you think he was manipulating her?

527
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:34,520
Very possible.

528
00:40:35,540 --> 00:40:36,320
Very possible.

529
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,500
But I don't know.

530
00:40:39,300 --> 00:40:42,260
I may not have gotten all the true answers.

531
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,840
And, yeah, we'll wait.

532
00:40:45,940 --> 00:40:46,880
One day it'll come out.

533
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:47,280
Mm-hmm.

534
00:40:48,240 --> 00:40:48,520
Yeah.

535
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:57,900
Two things you learn through a process such as this that are very hard lessons are patience.

536
00:40:57,900 --> 00:41:10,660
There's only one person I have not been able to forgive and they're not the people in prison.

537
00:41:10,660 --> 00:41:19,760
And I leave it to my faith and to God to handle that in the appropriate time.

538
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,060
In a you,

539
00:41:21,060 --> 00:41:21,080
No.

540
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:21,520
There's only one.

541
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,660
I leave it to my life and that's what you want.

542
00:41:24,660 --> 00:41:25,380
But all the times I want to hold your mind,

543
00:41:25,380 --> 00:41:28,020
especially for you for that for us,

544
00:41:28,020 --> 00:41:29,180
I love you.

545
00:41:29,180 --> 00:41:29,660
Yes.

546
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:30,620
Maybe I don't know.

547
00:41:30,620 --> 00:41:31,300
No.

548
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:32,020
Hey.

549
00:41:32,020 --> 00:41:32,040
Bye.


